Welcome to Up
Around the Corner, Brandon and Rem. Please, tell us a little about
yourselves and Dueling Ogres.
Remington |
Brandon |
What was the motivation or drive behind creating your podcast and how did you come up with the name for it?
Rem: Brandon and I have endeavored to create something for the better part of our
out-of-high school friendship. We first started off with physical comics and
then moved on to webcomics. Unfortunately, I’m completely overbearing and
Brandon’s uncontrollably aloof.
So when those didn’t
work out, we took a break from each other’s smelly faces. When we came back,
Brandon wanted to do a podcast and I said “Meh, what’s the worst that could
happen?” AND HERE WE ARE!
The name was a bigger
chore than we originally intended. We tossed around some pretty awful names:
The Bias Brigade, Mad Murray’s Barbecue Hour, Rem & Bo – Soup for the Soul,
Two Twats and a Mic, You’re Clearly Bored, Misanthropic Musings, Douglas Fir
Power Hour, Goblets and Ganders, The Goliath Serum, Fortified Whines, Robot
Reach-Around, and Mustache’d Questions to name a few.
Then we threw a shout
out to the social media platform. We started off with “The Lazy Ogre Hour” or
“Dueling Columns.” We got the following, because our friends all think they’re
funny: Lazy Ogre, The Hour of the Lazy Duel Columnist Ogres, Two Lazy Bastards
with No Flare for Name Choosing, Hairy and the Brandersons…
Eventually I pulled
the trigger on a combination of the two: Dueling Ogres. Quick, simple, and
sonically pleasurable.
Brandon: Succinct! Dueling Columns was my
suggestion originally...so very glad that ended up being left on the cat-hair
covered floor of the studio.
Who is your intended audience?
Rem: We are foul mouthed and occasionally talk
about some heavy life stuff, but all in all it’s a comedy cast focusing mainly
around geek culture. So while we won’t stop your kids from listening to us, you
should really be paying closer attention to their internet usage. The analytics
tell me we’re most popular with the 25-34 age range and relatively close in
sex.
Brandon: For me, the intended audience is anyone who enjoys geeky
things without taking it or themselves too seriously. We have a lot of fun
recording the episodes, and if nothing else that seems to shine through.
How do you prepare for the podcast? How do you determine
each episode’s contents?
Rem: About 95% of the time we come in to the
studio having no idea what we’re going to talk about. The other 5% is a topic
or topics we tossed at each other in a private message a day or so beforehand.
TLDR: We don’t and we don’t.
Brandon: Translation – I spend a few hours each
week checking up on movie, gaming, and comic news and writing down things that
may springboard into a discussion. As far as topics go, there really isn't a
whole lot of rhyme or reason. I try and do a theme episode every few weeks,
like the history of sea monsters or the etymology behind curse words. Those
tend to be a lot more involved with close to eight or so hours of research.
Most of the time I haven't told Rem the topic beforehand so our conversations
are more genuine.
What’s the most difficult part of podcasting and what’s
the most enjoyable part?
Rem: The most difficult part is the editing by
far. And it’s not so much that the editing is hard, but it’s very tedious
because I’m a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to cutting silence and
erroneous stutters. As we go on, I’ve found shortcuts and have learned to let
some of those things go. For me, the most enjoyable part is learning something
new about the technical aspect (i.e. EQ, compression, etc., - stuff that makes
us sound better) and spending a couple hours every week with one of my favorite
people in the world.
Brandon: The most difficult thing for me is trying
to be as open and honest as possible while still being entertaining. In the
real world I'm pretty reserved, so it catches me off-guard sometimes still that
we're digitizing our lives and putting them out onto the internet forever. Well
that, and trying to feign enthusiasm when Rem brings up World of Warcraft.
Most rewarding by far is interacting with our listeners. It's nice to see something you've made is acknowledged, you know?
How has Dueling
Ogres changed over time? What direction do you anticipate it taking?
Rem: Honestly, when starting anything new there’s
this grittiness to it. We haven’t even released our first seven or eight
episodes for reasons ranging from sound quality to us coming off too
pretentious or overly crass; so there’s been a learning curve in the very way
we present ourselves, especially during important interviews. We’re both
self-conscious about the way we portray ourselves and we’re very aware of how
responsive the internet can be if you say something it doesn’t like. So we
dance a fine line between being crude and being funny for the people we have
listening. We certainly don’t want to lose the millions of people already
listening to our show.
After 50 episodes, I
think we’ve settled in to what we’re going to be doing for the long-haul. We’ll
continue to experiment with things like fake commercials about Podcast Dumps
and stuffing movie tickets into the elderly. We might occasionally do a bit
here and there. But by-and-large the podcast will probably continue to have a
loose form factor where we talk about things we like and dislike until we
actually duel with clubs and morningstars. On-air. Live. To the death.
Brandon: Agreed. Our
death fight is inevitable. Neither can live while the other survives.
If you could have lunch with any two individuals (living
or deceased), who would they be, where would you dine, and what would you hope
to discuss?
Rem: We’ll go with one living and one dead. Robin
Williams, because the man was probably the sweetest, funniest person I’ve ever
had the privilege to be entertained by. We would discuss anything and
everything we could until we realized we’d been having lunch for three days
straight. Living – and this is a weird one, I think – Bill Clinton. I don’t
know if you’ve paid him much attention since his presidency, but he’s been
doing a lot of humanitarian work with the Clinton Foundation and I’d love to
pick his brain about where we’re at as a country, where we’re going, and how we
can work to be better to our fellow man.
Brandon: Kurt Vonnegut
and Leonard Cohen. We'd eat somewhere greasy and kosher, so maybe a Jewish
Wendy's? And hopefully we could discuss quitting smoking, rapidly changing
technology, and finding the balance between cynicism and bitterness that really
makes their work fantastic.
What advice would you have for others thinking of getting
into podcasting?
Rem: The best advice any podcaster will tell you
is to talk about something you’re passionate about. If you’re worried about
your equipment or how you sound: don’t. There are plenty of shitty-sounding
podcasts that are totally worth the listen, and plenty more great sounding
podcasts that are boring beyond reprieve. If you’re serious about what you’re
delivering, the quality of your show will improve over time.
Other advice (after
you’ve decided what your show is about): get a website, consider recording
video on top of audio, network with other people, and invest in your endeavor.
Growing your brand is important if you want people to respect you, even if your
content is comedy driven. And it will take time. It doesn’t happen overnight,
especially if you’re on a budget.
Brandon: Find a friend with a love of editing and
expensive computer equipment who humors your silly ideas. Worked for me!
As we’re closing in on the end of the interview, is there
anything you’d like to say or add?
Rem: Make sure you closed the garage door. I’ve
got big things going in there. BIIIIIIG things!
Brandon: Seriously, don't look in his garage.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions,
Remington and Brandon.
Hey, it was our
pleasure and we’re happy for the opportunity! We can’t wait to ask you a bunch
of deeply personal and potentially awkward questions. When it happens the door
will be locked. We’ve learned our lesson: Never let the guest leave…alive.
Below are links were you can find out more about and
listen to Dueling Ogres:
Google Voicemail:
(978) DUOGRES [386-4737]
Twitter: @duelingogres
Facebook: facebook.com/duelingogres
Email: duelingogres@gmail.com
Podcast feed: duelingogres.libsyn.com
You can also search for us on pretty much everywhere you get a podcast. If you can’t find us, send us an email and we’ll jump on that like a grenade from the Viet Cong.
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